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    Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:41pm
So, my friend gave me a half gram of 20x salvia. I'm planning to smoke it over winter break, either alone, or with a friend.

Thing is, there is a lot of confusion as to the proper method for smoking it.
Is it nessecary to:
-Use a torch lighter to get it hot enough?
-Use a water pipe?

Other advice, or experiences?
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Yes, you will waste it if you don't use a torch lighter.
Water pipes are not necessary. No not try to roll a joint though.

Make sure you hold the smoke in your mouth for 30 seconds before blowing out. This is essensial. You will know if you are going to be halluciating or if it is just a body high 10 seconds after you blow it out.

What I did the last time (which was months ago because I may never do it again) is smoke it and breathe it in quickly and deep. Count for 30 seconds in your head and as you do this, put the pipe or lighter down. At 20 seconds, lie down in a fairly dark room on somethign comfy. At 30 seconds, blow it out. It will probably take complete effect right away.

I am the owner of the top forum salvia story. I may post up later but it's long and scary.

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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

So, my friend gave me a half gram of 20x salvia. I'm planning to smoke it over winter break, either alone, or with a friend.

Thing is, there is a lot of confusion as to the proper method for smoking it.
Is it nessecary to:
-Use a torch lighter to get it hot enough?
-Use a water pipe?

Other advice, or experiences?


For best results (which means either tripping at all, or feeling full effects) use both a water pipe (preferably bong) and a torch lighter.

Also, HAVE A TRIP SITTER.  ALWAYS.
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Yes, you will waste it if you don't use a torch lighter.



That is a lie if I ever did hear it.
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Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:


Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

So, my friend gave me a half gram of 20x salvia. I'm planning to smoke it over winter break, either alone, or with a friend.

Thing is, there is a lot of confusion as to the proper method for smoking it.
Is it nessecary to:
-Use a torch lighter to get it hot enough? -Use a water pipe?

Other advice, or experiences?
For best results (which means either tripping at all, or feeling full effects) use both a water pipe (preferably bong) and a torch lighter.Also, HAVE A TRIP SITTER.  <span style="font-weight: bold;">ALWAYS.</span>


Bong is not necessary, torch is.


That is true, always be with a sober friend.
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Originally posted by Ticalxx421 Ticalxx421 wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Yes, you will waste it if you don't use a torch lighter.

That is a lie if I ever did hear it.


How so?

It is such a waste without a torch.
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Ticalxx421 Ticalxx421 wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Yes, you will waste it if you don't use a torch lighter.

That is a lie if I ever did hear it.


How so?

It is such a waste without a torch.

You say you will waste it if you don't use a torch like it is some godly lighting mechanism. Regular lighters work just fine. All I am saying is don't go running out to a store and spend 5 bucks on a torch lighter just to smoke it.


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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:


Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

So, my friend gave me a half gram of 20x salvia. I'm planning to smoke it over winter break, either alone, or with a friend.

Thing is, there is a lot of confusion as to the proper method for smoking it.
Is it nessecary to:
-Use a torch lighter to get it hot enough? -Use a water pipe?

Other advice, or experiences?
For best results (which means either tripping at all, or feeling full effects) use both a water pipe (preferably bong) and a torch lighter.Also, HAVE A TRIP SITTER.  <span style="font-weight: bold;">ALWAYS.</span>


Bong is not necessary, torch is.


That is true, always be with a sober friend.


For best results I'd strongly suggest a bong.  However, I'm sure a bubbler would work fine as well.

And yeah, Carl's instructions are dead on. 

And to  erowid.

Tic, you're wrong.

Normal Bic lighters don't reach the same temperature as torch lighters, and being as salvia requires higher heat levels to be activated a torch lighter is nearly necessary.

And you don't eat leaves, you let them sit under your tongue.


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I managed to get it to work with a normal lighter. I used a gravity bong with a very large screen so it could draw a lot of air and pack a huge load, the leaves are pretty dry so you have to burn a crapload of it but it did burn white-hot. I split two back to back 2 liter hits of the smoke that looked like chocolate milk with my sister(me taking most of them since I have better lung capacity) She immediately ran upstairs and freaked out, then cam back down, walked out the front door, ran to the back door and came back in to "make sure the doors still worked". I was told of this story later since I tripped balls. I felt like the hand of god slapped me out of known existence an into the macro-verse(to borrow a term from Stephen King's IT, the ritual of Chud was definitely trippy) where I landed in a smooth, endless blue lake, then Godzilla-sized sea hags erupted from it and began laughing at me(I'm guessing this was how my brain interpreted my sister's crazy punk friends) and then found myself falling up a tree and tried to grab branches to stop myself. About then I snapped out of it to discover that I was still standing by the sink where I'd had the gravity bong resting, my sister's friends were still laughing, and I was clutching the handles of the knives on the rack which I had thought were tree branches.

But yeah, use a waterpipe and a torch lighter. I'd tried the gravity bong loads before and had to ghetto-rig a tinfoil screen that was perfect for airflow. I might try it again in a controlled environment using the extract, although I suspect it would be hard to clean the nasty-smelling residue out of a glass pipe as I don't know if an alcohol bath would remove it. Smoke it with a friend, or failing that, do it in a padded room. I've known people who've tried to climb out windows.


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yeah i've never used a torch lighter nor have any of my buddies and its worked out pretty darn good for us. So i would say its deffinatly not necessary.
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Agreed, I <3 Erowid, but I couldn't find this info there.
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Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:



And to  erowid.

Tic, you're wrong.

Normal Bic lighters don't reach the same temperature as torch lighters, and being as salvia requires higher heat levels to be activated a torch lighter is nearly necessary.

And you don't eat leaves, you let them sit under your tongue.

I have smoked salvia more times that I can even care to remember. BIC's work fine. Sure you can get a little more out of it, but like I said you don't need to go buy a torch specificly for that reason.

You can eat them which gives you the same effect. I have read so much on this stuff, I know what I am talking about.


So you guys don't get mad.

If you have a torch lighter, by all means use that. But if you don't it is no big deal.
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Yes, it is. You are wasting your stuff without a torch. It will not reach the temp required to activate it. Sure, you can make it work without a torch but why would you? It takes twich as much stuff to get the same effects as from a bic.

Eating actually does work but barely at all. It tastes nasty and does nothing more than a body high plus it won't activate for hours.

Like glassjaw said, the main method if you are actually willing to stick that crap in your mouth is to do it under your tongue. It's called a quid but I've never gotten it to work well.


This makes me miss the 36 grams I bought last year.

I am seriously considering posting my story just for the fun of reliving it.
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I've let it sit under my tongue for almost half an hour and barely got a body high. If you want to trip balls and not waste it use the approved methods. The body high sucks and just made me angry and get cold sweats. 
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Like I said. BIC's work fine.

 however, like I also said. If you have a torch, use that.

 


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Dry leaves can be smoked in a pipe, but most users prefer the use of a water pipe to cool the smoke.[28] The temperature required to release salvinorin from the plant material is quite high (about 240°C). A regular flame will work, but the direct application of something more intense, such as the flame produced from a butane torch lighter, is often preferred.[28]







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This is not my good story but it is all I have time for for now.

My very first time actually doing it, I only got a body high but it was super intense.

I was getting sucked to the ground and I couldn't do anything but laugh. It was nowhere close to the real effects though.
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