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    Posted: 11 June 2009 at 9:06pm
Tomorrow could be one of the most important dates in the past 30 years. Wear some green and hope that Mousavi wins. If he does, the situation in the middle east could become far more stable in the next few years as well as the situation in Afghanistan.
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As long as the election isn't rigged, Mousavi should win with about 55 percent to 60 percent.



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I can't even imagine that enthusiasm here, and we already have democracy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote agentwhale007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2009 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

I can't even imagine that enthusiasm here, and we already have democracy


Everything under the position of Supreme Leader there is pretty democratic, they just have a problem with religious, old, unintelligent, rural, poor conservatives voting en-mass....

....Which sounds awfully familiar.


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But didn't Mousavi actually start the nuclear program there?
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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

But didn't Mousavi actually start the nuclear program there?


1) No, after his position in government (He was Prime Minister from 81-89) was ended, he went into a political seclusion.

2) What would it matter if he did? He's been very public about supporting Iran's nuclear program, which is a good thing. He just plans on actually trying to convince the west that it's for electricity, not weapons.
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He's like if obama were middle eastern!
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I doubt he'll win.

Corruption will probably be major, and can't rule out assassination.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I doubt he'll win.

Corruption will probably be major, and can't rule out assassination.


I don't think the Ayatollahs can risk large-scale corruption on this one. There'd be too much of a chance of a student/young professional led revolution if it did occur. And the Ayatollahs want to retain at least some semblance of power. If there was another revolution, they'd be up a creek. Same goes for assassination. You've got to remember that the Ayatollahs and other Islamic influences are NOT native to Iran but rather Arab constructs that have worked their way in over time. The Iranian identity is very much at stake in this election and the momentum is swinging back towards the Persian ethnic identity rather than the Islamic identity which more closely identifies itself with the Arab world.

Iran is about as close in culture as you will get to a western nation in the mid-east. The people are amazingly open and friendly and many have had their fill of abrasive anti-western leadership.
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Not to mention, political assassinations are not really...popular. 
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:


Iran is about as close in culture as you will get to a western nation in the mid-east. The people are amazingly open and friendly and many have had their fill of abrasive anti-western leadership.
Truth. I have had an oddly large amount of iranian native professors and all of them stress the "progressiveness" of the iranian electorate. Although, they may have been attempting to recruit me as a spy for Iran by hinting at slutty persian women.

I'd make a good spy.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:


I'd make a good spy.


Your mission, should you choose to accept:


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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Not to mention, political assassinations are not really...popular. 



Because Mahmoud has been the epitome of the popularity seeking type in the world.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Not to mention, political assassinations are not really...popular. 



Because Mahmoud has been the epitome of the popularity seeking type in the world.


I'm confused at the point you are attempting to make.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

I'd make a good spy.
Your mission, should you choose to accept:
I accept.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Not to mention, political assassinations are not really...popular. 



Because Mahmoud has been the epitome of the popularity seeking type in the world.


In all honesty, he has been when you take his neighbors into consideration. The right-wing fundies put him into power, the right-wing fundie ayatollahs let him stay there, and his right-wing fundie neighbors have been more than willing to let him take all the heat from the pro-Israeli western powers. It's really been a mirror presidency to the Bush presidency here in the US when you look at it.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:


I'd make a good spy.


Your mission, should you choose to accept:




id hit it

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His new slogan should be "Mousavi, chicks dig him"
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Not to mention, political assassinations are not really...popular. 



Because Mahmoud has been the epitome of the popularity seeking type in the world.
I'm confused at the point you are attempting to make. .



He's not a sane man, and as such, doesn't care what is popular or not. If he wants to do something, such as assassination, I wouldn't put it by his simpleton mind to do so.

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As far as I have read, the guy is calling for a detente with the west, not full on peace. So you would have to pardon my skeptisism. 
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