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    Posted: 11 September 2011 at 3:31pm
lulwut, Theguy is making a new topic. Must be that time of the year.


So I have been postponing picking up a handgun, never really had the money to make the investment.

One of the local range/stores rents handguns, and I was just looking for ideas on what to try out, to save me some money.

Mostly, I am looking for something to practice at the range with (future LEO). 9mm.

That same store, will also take the fees from up to 3 rentals, and put them towards the cost of the handgun. I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking at when it comes to handguns. I like the feel of the USP, but can't afford it.
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Glock 19 FTW
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Originally posted by deadeye007 deadeye007 wrote:

Glock 19 FTW

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I just don't like Glocks. Not my thing. I've got an FNP-9, which is an absolutely terrific firearm. Imagine a Sig-Saur P229 with a polymer frame. I love it. My favorite gun that I own right now is my Browning Hi-Power, however. An absolutely beautifully designed handgun. The ergonomics are perfect, it was the first double-stack magazine, and it's a good, solid shooter. The only disadvantages are it's single action, and the magazine disconnect gives the trigger unnecessary weight and roughness. It's not very practical for police purposes, however.
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Your cops use 9mm?
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Your cops use 9mm?



If they're wimpy cops that drive around harassing people because they live in places that don't see real crime, yes. Departments in the know issue .40 though.
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If you're thinking about becoming a LEO, consider whatever sidearm the department of your choosing is currently issued.

All in all... if your local range offers a variety of rentals, try them all! You want what you're comfortable with first... secondary would be familiarity with whatever department(s) are using around you.

Other than that, there are so many good quality choices out there, that it's impossible to pick one based solely on opinions of others. DeTrevni mentioned the FNP-9. Excellent handgun. The new M&Ps are good. I have CZs that I'm very happy with.
I never liked Glocks... but have more recently become a convert. My daily carry is now a G26, and I have a G19 as well. G19 is a popular police-issue (well, G23 these days, as most departments seem to be going 40S&W). Parts, holsters, magazines... all easily found and CHEAP.

If you have a budget, that makes it a little easier for you. Limit your rental choices to what you can afford. Better yet, if the range will allow it... combine one "rental" and perhaps try several in one day? Will they let you fire 2-3 magazines out of a gun, then turn it in for a different one, and only charge one rental fee for the day? Look into it.

9x19 is a good caliber to own. Many will tell you to go with 40S&W, and there's nothing wrong with that. Look into ammo availability and cost in your area to help determine which road to take. Most handgun makes will offer same/similar models in multiple calibers. DeTrevni's FNP-9 is also offered as an FNP-40. The G19 is identical to the G23. G17 to 22, 26 to 27.   So even if a department by you is carrying G23s, it'd be perfectly fine for you to get a G19 and maintain the same feel.

You find yourself in a better position than most. Lot of people don't have rental opportunities near them. Try before Buy is a tremendous help. Being able to physically hold the pistol in your hand is of great importance before deciding... but being able to actually fire the pistol is that much better! You could be dead-set on a particular make/model, and upon firing realize it's not a good match for you. You could also have a negative opinion of a make/model from the beginning, and then realize that you actually enjoy that piece. I've experienced both of those myself.

All in all... first and foremost is TRY. Holding is a good first step. But if you have the opportunity to fire them, do it!

Then do pro/con list if you still have to make a decision from that point. Cost and availability of spare mags, cost and availability of ammo (if diff calibers), cost and availability of holsters (if you consider carrying at some point). Weigh configurations and aftermarket factory options... do I want decocker or manual safety, do I want night sights, etc.

Again... lots of excellent choices out there. Really up to you to determine what's "best". Each of us has already made that determination for ourselves and that may or may not translate into what would work for you.
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I love my Glocks. Heckler and Koch makes an awesome handgun, FN is great as well as DeTrevni pointed out.

Like Shorty was saying, try them all out. I dislike 9mm's myself, I've always carried .40's, and now a .45. But to each his own, either is as effective as the other with enough rounds Wink
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i love my glock 19 just fits my hand perfect, the weight is just right with a full clip. on the other hand i like the sheer stopping power of taurus pt1911, only thing i dond like about is the stainless is a little too flasy for me but the price was right. i would stay away from hi point hand guns, life time warranty and cheap price, but they definatly feel cheap. and the .45 hipoint is just way to bulky. i also had an S&W sigma 9mm, i liked everything about it except the 10 pound trigger pull.
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Originally posted by stick_boy_2002 stick_boy_2002 wrote:

a full clip

Ur doin it wrong Wink
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Rentals fees are:
$25 for an hour of range time
$10 per gun

I have to buy the ammo from them (only for rentals).

I have one semester left before I can go test with MCOLS, (MI's certification branch).

I was leaning toward a 9mm because of a cheapness of ammo. Most departments around here all carry Glocks anyway, even Detroit carries G19's. However, I don't like Glocks, because of their lack of a safety catch.

I will look into the CZ, the FNP, and Sig's and see what I like. I'll report back.
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Curious to know what offerings they have for rentals. Write down the choices and let us know.   

As for Glocks...



j/k
Valid concern, and good that you have that criteria. Again... limits your choices, making things easier for you.

Edited by ShortyBP - 11 September 2011 at 10:28pm
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The lack of an external safety on a glock doesn't worry me in the least, less fine motor skills needed when the yogurt hits the fan, the better.
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I really do like the feel of Glocks. Its just that safety issue I have. 

As far as ammo costs around here go.

$15 50-9mm
$30 box of .40
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I never understood why one would want four-tee s&w.

And as a leo, the only gun I would want would be a internal trigger safety operated weapon.

I will never own a handgun that has a external safety. We don't live in the 70's


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M&P.

They are the new Glock. You can get a version with a thumb safety, IIRC you can install the safety on any model of M&P.

They are getting more and more serious use.




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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Your cops use 9mm?



If they're wimpy cops that drive around harassing people because they live in places that don't see real crime, yes. Departments in the know issue .40 though.
My buddy was a city cop.  That department issued SigSauer226 9mm pistols.  He had a guy advancing on him with a large butcher-type knife.  He gave the guy every opportunity to discontinue his advance on him.  A double tap of the trigger later the guy was crumpled on the ground with two bullet holes on each side of his sternum.  Each of those hydrashocks hit the heart lungs liver and a kidney.  Even if there were paramedics there at the time of the shooting there was nothing they could do.  I would never ever discount a 9mm round.  The +P Hydrashocks I guess are not to be trifled with.
 
Since he was medically retired, he picked up the same model gun since it was what he was comfortable with.  He carries it at work where he manages a low-income government funded apartment complex where he used to bust drug dealers.
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Hydrashocks is good stuff.

That's what I carry.
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I got a 50ct box of Ranger SXTs for cheap when I purchased my pistol.  It's what I use for home defense if I can't get to the shotgun.
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